BLAC Finance welcomes you to this enlightening Q&A with Dundee Gouin – a commendable figure in financial planning and a managing director at Northwestern Mutual in Chicago. As an advocate for financial prosperity among underprivileged communities, Gouin’s work enthusiastically straddles the intersection of finance and social responsibility. In this candid interview, Gouin addresses the critical role of estate planning and money talks for bridging the racial wealth gap, a poignant issue for African American households in America. He shares his insights and practical advice for overcoming societal obstacles and reshaping financial futures.
The Stark Reality of the Racial Wealth Gap
Why is it vital for African Americans to have proactive conversations on estate planning in combating the racial wealth gap in America?
In 2019, the median wealth (without defined-benefit pensions) of Black households in the U.S. was $24,100, compared to $189,1000 for white households. While there are many factors to account for this prominent gap, a large contributor is the systemic barriers African Americans have historically faced on their pursuit to generational wealth. However, the earlier families engage in conversations on estate planning, the more prepared they will be in the event of one’s passing. As a result, these conversations can play a crucial role in building intergenerational wealth.
How does early estate planning – starting as early as age 18 – contribute to mitigating the wealth gag?
Early and proactive estate planning, starting from age 18 or as soon as one begins accumulating assets, can play a significant role in mitigating the wealth gap.
- Asset protection – Allows individuals to protect their assets from potential risks, such as lawsuits, creditors and other unforeseen financial challenges. This protection, in turn, helps in preserving wealth for future generations.
- Wealth preservation – The earlier one engages in estate planning, the sooner they can implement strategies to preserve their wealth over time.
- Tax efficiency – Estate planning, with the help of seasoned professionals, can help to minimize tax liabilities on assets. As a result, this can help avoid excess taxes when passing down wealth to future generations.
- Education funding – Parents and guardians can incorporate provisions for educational funding in their estate plans to help ensure future generations can access quality education.
Given the clear importance of early estate planning as outlined above, why do you think the average African American often waits to prepare a will until age 43?
Generally, the African American community doesn’t communicate about finances as often as they should, and as a result, many families miss out on the early stages of planning. This is often due to the common misconception that you have to be a millionaire to think about estate planning. In reality, estate planning comes in all shapes and sizes.
From passing down a home to a 401(k), estate planning looks different for everyone – but its importance remains the same. The earlier you start, the more prepared you’ll be.
Can you expound on the study’s finding on the importance African American individuals place on having wealth conversations across generations versus the low percentage that actively engage in them?
Although many people would agree that having wealth conversations across generations is important, according to Northwestern Mutual’s Planning and Progress study, only 31% of African American respondents on average have spoken to their parents/guardians about their wishes regarding inheritance issues, their will and other matters related to their estate plans. I believe the low percentage of engagement is largely due to the widening wealth gap. However, we have a unique opportunity to encourage the next generation of African Americans who are speaking to a financial advisor to impact not only their generation, but the generation that comes after them by putting a plan in place.
How can Northwestern Mutual financial advisors assist African American families in making long-term care plans and discussing inheritance issues?
- Educate clients: Arguably, one of the most important roles a financial advisor plays in helping African American families with their estate planning needs is education. A Northwestern Mutual financial advisor can help African American families close the knowledge gap by ensuring families are informed on the estate planning process and can pass it down to future generations. Additionally, a Northwestern Mutual financial advisor can help families avoid mistakes in the planning process, such as incorrectly titling beneficiaries and leaving yourself open to probate.
- Provide resources/tools: In addition to helping your family create a financial security plan to meet their goals, a financial advisor can provide tools and resources to build an estate plan that makes an impact well into the future. In my practice, I emphasize the importance of creating a trust because it allows you to dictate exactly how you would like things passed down, as opposed to having the government decide for you. With state tax laws expected to change in 2026, it’s even more crucial to work closely with a financial advisor for estate planning needs to ensure your plan is up to date.
- Multigenerational support: If your parents/older family members have a financial advisor, you will want to gather the advisor’s contact information to ensure you have access to your parent’s financial details if needed. Furthermore, if you want to work with your own financial advisor, make sure the advisor can walk you through the estate planning process and is able to help you along your personal journey of setting up a financial plan. If they won’t be in the industry for the longevity of your planning needs, it’s important to seek out a firm that has multigenerational advisors to help all generations in your family with their estate plans. If your parents/older family members don’t have an estate planning attorney or financial advisor, encourage them to schedule an appointment so their wishes can be documented and so they can move into their next phase of life confidently.
Could you please provide five actionable tips for navigating the potentially difficult conversations around estate planning with loved ones?
- The time is now – While the conversation does not have to be formal or forced, don’t wait until a crisis to have it. It’s important to choose an appropriate time to discuss this topic with your family members while keeping in mind that time is of the essence. The earlier you have this conversation, the more time you’ll have to prepare for your future. The sooner you plan, the more likely you will be able to avoid the burden of the probate process – which occurs in cases when no will or trust is present.
- Choose a responsible relative to execute the conversation– Appointing one or two relatives that you trust to execute the conversation to the best of their ability is crucial to ensure fairness and avoid family disputes.
- Come prepared – A difficult conversation like estate planning can be intimidating and anxiety provoking. However, knowing how you want to start this discussion can help to ease anxiety and ensure you approach the conversation with compassion and empathy.
- Make intentions clear – Emphasize that you acknowledge the difficulty of this conversation but want to make sure your family is prepared for the uncertainty of the future as it might be a potential threat to their legacy.
- Consult a financial advisor – Financial advisors can act as neutral facilitators in important money conversations with loved ones, helping to create a comfortable setting for all parties. Additionally, they can be there to educate and answer questions to ensure everyone involved is making informed decisions.
Legacy building is undeniably more than an individual pursuit; it is a collective effort fundamentally ingrained in community unity, financial acumen, and forward vision. It is time to diminish the cloud of aloofness surrounding estate planning conversations within African American households. Taking on this financial realm in conjunction with qualified advisors like those at Northwestern Mutual can empower communities to mold their financial future, facilitate wealth transfer, and gradually close the racial wealth gap. BLAC Magazine encourages you to digest the insights shared by Dundee Gouin, share them with your loved ones and leverage them to shape your financial journey favorably. Remember, your legacy is too significant to be left to chance; start planning today.